When Jk says - can you look at something without any single word and thought , and people try to concentrate and try to put all their full attention to see at something so soon they will be tired and looks paralyzed. When he says- can you look at something without any word, without any thought ? and answer is No.. because mind never look at things totally. so try not to look at things without any thought or any word. But his word for observation is passiveness , Passiveness is not any kind of activeness, there is no any struggle from your side , no any desire to looks at things without any words.. Things always appear by itself and its own way but we are trying to know them, trying to label them, trying to understand them , trying to catch them ,or trying not to judge them , or trying to give meaning,trying to choose or not to choose them and it is simply because what we call mind. So if you want to see the things clearly and events happening around us and inside of us then you have nothing to worry about , because every struggle is activeness. And same as if you want to be partial , neutral and practicing not to judge, or not to react to thought or things around us , will make you tired. Then what is passiveness. .. Knowing all mind cobwebs as mind looks like spider and always making more cobwebs , you want to get rid off one cobweb with another cobweb, when you totally see it and understood it .. then by understanding and by seeing totally mind cobwebs creates a space , and this space where real observation and passiveness starts. So seems that you are trying to observe without having any space, so soon you will be tired , even you understood mentally very well. As you have no space , so no passiveness and true observation appears but only production of active observation in which sometime leads to relaxation periods when you become tired.These relaxation periods misnamed like passiveness. In relaxation period you will feel that you are feeling very good and things become more clear to you but in passiveness there is no such feeling because there is no such a thing with which you compare what is bad or poor or good feelings. So we are attaching with good feelings and good experiences and thinking that it is production of passiveness, but it is not. Do you understand this cobweb. When mind exist and it is called thinking and activeness and when absence of mind (thoughts etc) is called observation and passiveness. Passiveness is natural phenomenon and with passiveness you can dissolute, penetrate unlimitedly ... this dissolution, profound penetration into things brings ecstasy which is unknown to mind, which has no comparison in order to know it. This passiveness and observation leads to profound silence and stillness, where there is no any single tide of worry. These profound silence, stillness, observation, vastness ,unlimited beauty make you surprised at every moment and sometime you stop walking by simple sound of wind. You are in eternity ,where time does not exist , with disappearance of time goes all your worries. All your worries regarding your successes, failure, gain, loss, respect, image, honor etc all belong to thoughts and thought belong to time , so when time disappear then disappear all these worries.
@@mayankchaturvedi570 i got to know through life and I became interested what is pain, what is sadness, what is happiness and what is misery.why sadness and dull empty feeling is not leaving me even i am doing all good things, so all things what is said or told became fail to answer this simple question. I became sick of logic mind , because doing good things and morally right things did not take my sadness away. I never practice any method or followed any guru, because even at that time I did not know what was enlightenment or nirvana . I just heard these words as like some religious words. I just followed some voice inside of me. Because first question came from it then I started to listen this unknown language.This unknown language is great guider and true teacher. i did not chase enlightenment because I had no knowledge about it .When a true teacher appears inside you then why to worry about enlightenment. We never ask a true question, so true teacher never appears.Mostly people demand for something or trying to get rid from something.
Epic, thanks! I wrote this a few days ago, I think you'd probably dig, it's the same dialogue ✌ CONSIDERING THOUGHT, TIME, EMPTINESS What lies beyond thought? Do you wonder? Are YOU your thoughts? Can we go into these matters? Who are you? Really, if I said show yourself to me, what would you offer up? In order to begin to answer these questions, we must first observe inwardly the 'goings on'. We must examine how we observe and process experiences. We must examine our thoughts and the processes of the mind. Truthfully, there can be no progress until we are seeing clearly, what actually is. What is? If you observe a thing, the mind is conditioned to immediately name it and categorize it. In an unceasing effort to make sense of the world to ourselves, our minds are conditioned into this way of thinking. Immediately, thoughts rush in to compare, identify, etc. but these pre-conceived notions serve only to distort the truth of what is there. So the question becomes, how do I observe without any thought or precondition? Do you follow? Time, psychological time to be clear, is a product of thought. We exist, actually, in an ever continuing present. The notion of past and future are byproducts of thought. Try to understand that time exists only as a byproduct of thought. That when there is no thought, there is no time. When the mind is free from thought and temporal conditioning, it can rest easily in the present. We are all addicted to thinking. The constant barrage of information and the constant acceleration of society is absolutely counter to being able to observe clearly, not only the world, but yourself. So let's revisit the question, who are you? If you are not your thoughts, then who are you? What lies beyond thought? Quite obviously, if you stop thinking, you don't just cease to exist, right? So why are we addicted to thinking? This arises from identifying the self image with you, with identifying your thoughts as you and continually reinforced by the society we have created. That we say 'I' want this and 'I' want that, and 'I'm' not happy and 'I' desire, etc., etc. We've created a society based upon the worship of the ego, this perceived self image. A society built around pleasure. Externally we've all but mastered the world, but internally we are still petty, aggressive, fearful, sorrowful and ALL carry a nagging sense that this all isn't right. That truly, it's all illusory. That the things we are chasing, our behaviors, frankly, the way we even build esteem, etc. are derived from a conditioned world view that imprisons us all. Conditioned by culture, by religion, by nationality, by tradition. So it becomes OVERLY important to dissolve the conditioning first. To look at ANY matter with a sharp intellect, fresh, not conditioned by previous experiences not obstructed by thought. Do you see? So if one looks at a flower. The observer is static, the flower is static and any thought I have during that observation creates an interval of time. If one looks at the flower with no preconception and no thought, then as we spoke about earlier, there is no interval of time because there is no thought. Then the observer becomes the observed, you see? There is only one thing, no interval! Right? So the question simply becomes how does one stop thought, right? First we must agree that there is, that which lies beyond thought. That if we are not our thoughts, that there is a greater underlying all encompassing thing, maybe the absolute mind (although the word absolute carries some heavy preconception). Let's say the mind that exists beyond thought. The ever present mind. What is it? These are areas where words will sully the ability to comprehend. This is where the paradox shows itself, put simply and directly, where less becomes more. So we've examined that thought produces time, time is root of ALL fear. Ie. The thing happened in the past, we're afraid it's going to happen in the future, presently creating an anxious state. So in the present, the only thing that is real, we're blocked by this constant anxiety, all again, derived from the image of self. One must examine closely, that the whole affair is just being played out by the trickery of the ego. That we've become so deeply invested in that image that we'll defend it! Would you be ok to wake up tomorrow and have forgotten yourself, entirely? We should welcome this, and please not forgetting the entirety of our sum experience in a puritanical sense, but eliminating the illusion that has been self created, you follow? We live in a world that has never, in all of history been more divided. Those divisions are the prisons of the mind, you must accept this. The idealistic idea of a better world, loving society starts within ourselves, plain and simple. We must bring about a mutation in the mind, in consciousness and thinking. These are the only methods that will effect change and allow us to begin to truly see what is. The first step is to listen. Listen to your thoughts and examine your thinking process. So the discussion isn't about any method, any dogmatic practice, any ritual right? That there is no guru or teacher here, only YOU, the product of years of evolution of mankind, right? Where there is authority, there is a block. One must look within to begin to discover what really is. Therein lies the real truth of it all, where you become the entirety of the universe. Take great care in approaching these things, they CANNOT be found or achieved through concentration, effort or motive. This can be the single most challenging and perplexing part of 'IT' all. That's a very difficult thing to understand for us, our ENTIRE existence thus far is predicated on this principle of motivation. Just as stopping thoughts has a similar trap. Forcing that is like trying to use an oar to flatten ripples in the water, or trying to catch a burglar by chasing through the house banging a pot, it just creates more commotion. Similarly, trying to get rid of desire, is just another desire.... you see? All these types of methods just impede progress and impose a block at the first step. The is no profit, no reward or great satisfaction as we know it, in this particular journey inward. Let us all stop running away from ourselves! Let's openly engage in this dialogue, let's see if we can muster the immense discipline required to truly do this work. Belief has no place where truth is concerned. With love and compassion, J
Thinking is time which is illusion. While observing is a timeless movement. When thought arises , just watch it . If you’re thinking , tomorrow I will observe , this is a thought and you can observe this also. Observe your thoughts , noise and scenery around you. Just observe . Whatever comes in your mind , observe it . Wherever your eyes wanna see , let it see. Whatever your body is doing , let it do , you just watch it.
"Look at everything as though for the first time you are looking at the world." "Observe without feelings, thoughts, interpretation." "Observing, perceiving has no time. The words, thoughts create time." Thank you.
I can see that this man was completely in touch with his feminine and masculine qualities. he had such soft eyes and warm smile that I thought he was an old woman at first. truly intelligent human being
You have verbalization in your head: That's thought. You have no words in your head: That's observation. Observation is 100 times powerful than thought. That's why people who observe stand out. People who think a lot visit Psychiatrist.
@Abhi Shek "I can't Observe without words poping in my mind" That's your assumption, which is based on the fact that you identify too much with your thoughts. The fact is, over 90% of your thoughts are not really YOUR thoughts. They come either from the subconscious or emotional responses. If you get angry for example, you can observe yourself getting angry. It happened to me once and it was quite an experience, I felt that my mind was split in two. This taught me the dualistic nature of the mind: there is Ego, and there is Consciousness. The vast majority of people identify with their ego. You have to become aware that the Ego is illusory.
This is the greatest thing I've ever heard: 1 .- "The word and thougt crate time" 2.- "Time-binding quality is essentially the self". Something similar is said in the Bible : "The Word became flesh" . I believe that these statements contain the secret of ultimate liberation.
The message is, is that there is no conceptualisations in reality. No words nor ideas exist in reality to define anything. If you look and listen closely, you start to realise that many of our lives are lived within a world of thoughts and definitions that pose absolutely no relevance to reality whatsoever. This also includes ideas of 'enlightenment' and the 'ego'. We are so fixated on seeing things within the constraints of our minds and we don't actually see things the way they are, which in fact cannot be defined. The mind is all that there is and our thoughts are what we become! And if you're aware, you'll realise that these words are merely thoughts too. Quite contradictory.
What we call the Truth itself is contradictory. Once you define something as being the true, you’ve confined it to what’s known now. The truth presents itself all that time. It’s almost like trying to grab the water with your bare hands. Water will just flow throughout your fingers, just so as the truth would.
@@jasdm Not sure if this helps. Pay attention to assumptions. Be willing to be vulnerable. But at same time be aware of risk. Words are needed to describe in a relationship. Enjoy. Love.
Just try to deeply concentrate in the moment , nothing else , is important to think about nothing , just observe. For me the most important is to observe your self and your own actions , breathing etc... Good luck my friend , it really can bring you a lot of joy!
@@jasdm IDK if it helps but I watched one video it said when ur brain starts to form words about something just don't answer to that & let it say... If u don't react to it, the brain will slowly stop using words & at that time u will just watch or observe. 😊
At every point in Human history, these great CONTEMPORARY BEINGS have made a huge impact. Blessed is our world as long as we have these Great being among us.
By emptying the mind, being shapeless, formless. Bruce lee grasped that perfectly, when you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup, when you put water in a bottle, it becomes the bottle, when you put water in tea pot, it becomes the tea pot. Be water my friend. Tremendous observation by a great observer Dr Krishnamurti
It seems like I have been in state of word suspension for the last 50 years. Thanks to Krishnamurti my life is endlessly interesting. The word chair is not a chair. The word is not the thing. Get past the labels.
Who needs IKEA when the world is yours to chair? But who's left holding the shares when the chair shares its value with everything else? And what's the chairman to do when he's lost his seat in the game of defining chairs?
J,krishnamurti is great . There will be a time when you do not listen music just only by ears , you do not see things with just your eyes only , you do not feel by just your senses only. What is happening outside is happening inside of you, you can not separate it. There are no boundaries. There is just One...this Oneness is love.
Krishnamurti loves to ask questions and his teaching style can be a little daunting for the restless. But here, in this clip, he gives some beautifully clear answers.
After reading the question, he asked the audience members if they had the answer, and I realized I did. This realization occurred in the same moment I remembered this man's words against 'gurus', or the seeking of gurus.
I don't believe forgotten but actually we never learned because we were born into a conditioned disordered world/mind which we had to conform to, to survive. It is dying to this conditioned state or false reality that sets us free, letting go of our attachments beliefs fear images etc.
5:10 I didn't know this about others. I used to think that when we imagine something we don't use words because I mostly never used words on imagining something so I thought this would be true for everyone else.
K is not talking about imagination but to see something without name means without conditioning and as you say imagination whatsoever you imagine is impossible without content and naming and conditioning Hope you will understand thankyou
@@greathope6433 All the world history we've ever had are recorded "nows" even your own past is "past nows" so the only tangible now is the now "now". i hope you get this, read more.
@@dharmashekhar1047 Those world view of counting nows both linear and yuga are irrelevant, they are just like simple calander programs that you install on your computer. If you hadn't learn them you simply wouldn't know they exist because in reality they dont that is what he means by illusion. But you can leave the worldview of time. You dont have to live your life inside this programs, by clicking close the program by being in the now. And for that to happen you must stay with the witness that 3rd self of yours that sees the object and subject at the same time. You must find it and nurture its growth so you close the program all day.
@@greathope6433True the mind and body is in time and space, but consciousness goes deeper than that. The witness that witnesses the same body and mind goes beyond time and space..read more your argument is not false but insufficient it seems you have not understood wat the lesson is about read more on patanjali, gurdjieff.
From 11:10 to 11:40 timeline interests me, if one could watch one’s every thought, the difficulty is watching without judging this addictive form of watching then again becomes thought and so you’re caught in the loop once again, it takes real attention to breakthrough this cycle the watching and the judging are almost inseparable and when you think you’ve mastered it you’ve just judged yourself via thought once more so there can be no mastering just attention - nothing to gain nothing to lose everything else is thought !
The difference between observing and thinking is that: When you see something for the first time you feel something distinctive ( not talking of the general feelings of happiness, sadness etc.) And because you've not seen it earlier you are not thinking anything about it. While when you see something after seeing it many times you will notice that you are not feeling that thing as you were feeling initially. And you'll notice that subconsciously your brain predicts things about it like this is its structure on different angles, this is its functions etc. This is the difference between observing and thinking. In short, the difference is of the feeling. Present in observation and absent while thinking. Always remember, you are either thinking or feeling. As when you feel something very intensely (say intense sadness, tension, anger etc.) you are unable to think.
think of mind as a cave, you have to go deeper and deeper to observe or watch. knowing about it is like finding a treasure. you are blessed if you cant meditate cause its an opportunity for you, watching the tingling and sensation you have when meditating and watching especially what you feel when you wanna run from meditation. but its the thing of at least 6 years of continues meditation. and that is the milestone when you know that you have to drop the meditation.
This is the clearer explanation of the process I have watch from K. to date and it was fun to watch to boot! The master was in good shape that day! 🌄 🦅
3:20 - This is so interesting! Observe without transposing observations into abstract (and distracting) words of a language. As soon as we start observing with words, we stop truly observing and begin to formulate action, perhaps very selfish action.
If we stop thinking about self...we will start observing the things...just like our childhood...in childhood most our time we used to observe than thinking about ourself...this is the reason most of us like our childhood
Well said. I can remember being under the age of 3-4 and being aware of nothing except of being aware, how peaceful! Then becoming aware observing the world slowly unfold come into being. Life felt beautiful. It’s when I started becoming aware confused of people’s strange behavior/their conditioned minds their suffering that my thinking went into overtime (like most a horrible conditioned state of mind for decades) but now slowed down again due to listening to J Kristnamurti, peace has noticeably returned again
real observation only happened when we were born and exposed to this world the first few times before we were taught, we stopped observing and started learning and learnt everything wrong
If you can see / observe the activity of the brain, how it jumps around from sensation to sensation; seeking one pleasure/fulfillment then to another - if you can observe that without the label getting in the way, you have observation.
Be the observer of our mind!!the difference between observing and thinking is tremendous!!so observe the reality in the present moment!!the mind tremendously attentive and thinking is full of thoughts without realizing the present moment!!🙏🙏
So by observer you mean dont answer thoughts and giving them more energy? Cuz they fire automatically, repeatedly sometimes uninvited, un-announced and on blast some are rated R and some should not be discussed publicly 😅
Это значит мы должны наблюдать каждую мысль и знать, что мысли - это не мы, это приходит из вне, поэтому каждая мысль должна быть наблюдаема, это и есть осознание ее. Если мысль нам не нравится, не надо себя за это осуждать, надо думать о том, что хочешь добиться в жизни или читать хорошие полезные книги, можно классику , или можно говорить аффирмации для успокоения ума. А главное, надо помогать людям, в любой форме и делать это постоянно, тогда ум будет всегда думать о других и перестанет думать о себе любимом.
you can move what you see from observing the others..and improve to yourself..what is wrong from them your going to alternate this.. doing it righteously..the negative always faced the positive..all negative they bring? recieve and spread in a positive things..always stay in mind that working for bad things is giveback in bad situations..but the bad things you recieve gave them in good deeds..dont be angry because that it is part in our life..it hurts to be good person..but its okay..its not always hurt...the end is always happy and joy..
1st QUESTION: How do we tell the difference between observing ourselves in the sense you mean, and merely thinking about ourselves? Have you got the answer? Thinking about ourselves and observing about ourselves. They are two different things according to this question. Thinking about oneself, which we all do - I am making progress, I am better than yesterday, I have my problems, which is thinking. I wish I had better food, better clothing, better housing, or I wish I had more sex - you follow? - money, thinking about oneself all the time - which most of us do, even the austere monk, he does think about himself - right? Only is the name of God - right? And the questioner says, what is the difference between that, thinking about yourself, and observing yourself - right? Right, that is the question. Now we know what it means to think about ourselves - right? It is really going round and round in circles. Either expanding the self, the ego, or contracting the ego - right? I am the world, I am God, I must be more kindly, I must love. I must be more intelligent, I must meditate in order to achieve - whatever they want to achieve. So we are all caught in that. And observing oneself is something entirely different - right? Then let's find out what does it mean to observe. You understand the question? We are together in this? Come on sirs! First of all, do we observe anything without the word? Do we observe the mountain and not call it mountain? Do we observe the evening light on the cloud, with its most extraordinary colour, beauty and something immense, can we look at those clouds and the mountains without using a single word? Can we do that? You understand my question? Don't look so paralysed. That is, can we look at anything objectively, the trees, nature, the waters, the sky and the evening star and the silence of a morning, this extraordinary world we live in, natural world, can we look at anything without a single word? And to find that out we have to find, go into the question why the brain is caught in a network of words? You understand my question? Are we together in this? We are asking: can we look at anything, including my wife, my husband, my daughter, the politicians, the various gurus and the priests and all the circus that goes on in the name of religion, can we look at all that without reaction first? Then find out if we can look at all that without the network of words interfering with our observation. Can we do that? Have you ever tried that? When one looks at one's wife or husband, can you look at her or him, without all the images, all the things that you have accumulated about her or him, just to look? Can you? You are exceptionally silent when I talk about the husband and the wife and the girl and the boy. So one has to find out why the brain is so caught up in words. When you say he is a communist or a totalitarian you have wiped it out, you have put him in a category, in a cage, and that is the end of it. Or he is British. Or he is French, or he is an Indian, or he is this or that. See what is happening to our brain. Linguistically the brain has been caught with words, not the significance and the depth of the word, but just the word. This requires careful watching. Watching is to observe. There was a balloon going up this morning - you must have all seen it - and you watched it, going up and up and up very, very slowly. The gondola hanging and you saw the whole thing. Then you would say, "By Jove, I wish I were up there", or you say to yourself, "How dangerous." And so on. We never look at anything without words, without reactions. Look. Now you are all sitting there and you are unfortunately seeing the speaker. And you have already put him into a category. You already have an image about him. You already say he is this, he is that, or he is some kind of idiot or whatever you like to say about him. So you never (noise of train) - he has forgotten to whistle! (Laughter) - so you never look at him as though for the first time. You understand? Have you ever done this kind of thing? Not just for a minute or for an hour or a day, but the freshness of a mind, brain - you understand? - which is not caught in words, reactions, look at everything as though for the first time you are looking at the world. That observation is to watch oneself, never allowing a single thought to escape, without watching it, being aware of it, giving your whole attention to that one thought. And then another thought, keep at it. So that your brain is tremendously attentive. You understand? So that watching is not egocentric movement. Whereas thinking about yourself is egotistic, self-centred activity. It is clear, isn't it? Now, just a minute. How do we move from this to that? Right? You are asking naturally, you must ask that question. Or am I asking the question and you are accepting it? You understand? Suppose one is self-centred, I am self-centred, egocentric, all my outlook is personal - I am not loved, I must love, you know, all that kind of turmoil, silliness that goes on. I am that, one is that. Then how am I, how is it to move to the other? Right? You are asking that question, aren't you? Is that a right question? Moving from here to there. That is a wrong question obviously. Because if you move from here to there that is the same as this. Vous avez compris? Move! You understand this? If I say I am selfish, now I must not be selfish, I must observe. The"'must' is still in the same category, or the same movement, as thinking about oneself. Right? Are we together in all this? Some of us are I hope at least. So the question then is answered, not the answer is outside the question, but the answer is in the question. Right? That is observing the question itself, what it reveals. It reveals a tremendous lot. Because you see observing, if I can put it differently, observing, perceiving has not time. The other is caught in time: thinking about myself, I will fulfil one day, I have no roots now but I am going to establish roots some time, I have no identity - you follow? All those are time binding qualities. Time binding quality is essentially the self. I don't know if you want to go into all that. I am finding all this as I talk - right? Whereas watching, if you watch that bird, there is no time in that at all, just watching - right? So the word and thought create time. I won't go into all that. Got it
Thinking without words is also possible, its still language but in form of feelings that comes before words regardless, but we are unaware. Whole sentences at once, highly efficient.
I was there in that tent in Saanen in 1984. Somehow i knew that the next year would be the last, and went there again. Its a very good thing that these videos exist. Someone here is asking what Krishnamurti thinks about LSD. The answer is clear, that any drug makes the brain dull, talked once about a mushroom called Soma used in old India. But drugs can off course for a while Take away our thougts fears and so on, but not in a lasting manner.
Look at objects without reacting and without using any words, without any images about it. Watching is to observe. Look without reaction and without using words. Look at objects as if you are looking at it for the first time. Don’t allow a single thought to move without observing. Observing is not ego centric Thinking is ego centric Keep your brain always attentive Observing n perceiving has no time Self or ego is time bound Word n thought create time
Yes they should teach his wisdom in schools, unfortunately it is not in the vested interest or the bottom line, how foolish. On the whole I believe his/our messages will increase gaining traction, I believe it’s the only way real change can occur because it’s the way real change in “myself” occurred, basically through gaining self knowledge, that simple.
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Observing without judgement is the highest level of consciousness. Peace and Love from Algeria.
i am from algeria too
well let s get in touch since talking about this stuff here makes you crazy
Thanks for the comment. Marhba and let's be in touch.
@@inout7949 my fb : is hercules napoleon
the world would turn to an Apocalypse. itbound to happen
Yes, a quote from an unknown author,
“When we teach others, we teach ourselves!”
Watching a video without scrolling through comments is highest form of intelligence
Do you think so? What about writing a comment 😅
Ok what about writing comment?😁😁😂😂😂
🤣 you got me!
Only writing not even a comment is higher. The non-doingness of so-being.
I only scroll at the end
When Jk says - can you look at something without any single word and thought , and people try to concentrate and try to put all their full attention to see at something so soon they will be tired and looks paralyzed. When he says- can you look at something without any word, without any thought ? and answer is No.. because mind never look at things totally. so try not to look at things without any thought or any word. But his word for observation is passiveness , Passiveness is not any kind of activeness, there is no any struggle from your side , no any desire to looks at things without any words.. Things always appear by itself and its own way but we are trying to know them, trying to label them, trying to understand them , trying to catch them ,or trying not to judge them , or trying to give meaning,trying to choose or not to choose them and it is simply because what we call mind.
So if you want to see the things clearly and events happening around us and inside of us then you have nothing to worry about , because every struggle is activeness. And same as if you want to be partial , neutral and practicing not to judge, or not to react to thought or things around us , will make you tired.
Then what is passiveness. .. Knowing all mind cobwebs as mind looks like spider and always making more cobwebs , you want to get rid off one cobweb with another cobweb, when you totally see it and understood it .. then by understanding and by seeing totally mind cobwebs creates a space , and this space where real observation and passiveness starts.
So seems that you are trying to observe without having any space, so soon you will be tired , even you understood mentally very well. As you have no space , so no passiveness and true observation appears but only production of active observation in which sometime leads to relaxation periods when you become tired.These relaxation periods misnamed like passiveness. In relaxation period you will feel that you are feeling very good and things become more clear to you but in passiveness there is no such feeling because there is no such a thing with which you compare what is bad or poor or good feelings. So we are attaching with good feelings and good experiences and thinking that it is production of passiveness, but it is not. Do you understand this cobweb.
When mind exist and it is called thinking and activeness and when absence of mind (thoughts etc) is called observation and passiveness.
Passiveness is natural phenomenon and with passiveness you can dissolute, penetrate unlimitedly ... this dissolution, profound penetration into things brings ecstasy which is unknown to mind, which has no comparison in order to know it. This passiveness and observation leads to profound silence and stillness, where there is no any single tide of worry. These profound silence, stillness, observation, vastness ,unlimited beauty make you surprised at every moment and sometime you stop walking by simple sound of wind. You are in eternity ,where time does not exist , with disappearance of time goes all your worries. All your worries regarding your successes, failure, gain, loss, respect, image, honor etc all belong to thoughts and thought belong to time , so when time disappear then disappear all these worries.
How do you know all this?
@@mayankchaturvedi570 i got to know through life and I became interested what is pain, what is sadness, what is happiness and what is misery.why sadness and dull empty feeling is not leaving me even i am doing all good things, so all things what is said or told became fail to answer this simple question. I became sick of logic mind , because doing good things and morally right things did not take my sadness away.
I never practice any method or followed any guru, because even at that time I did not know what was enlightenment or nirvana . I just heard these words as like some religious words.
I just followed some voice inside of me. Because first question came from it then I started to listen this unknown language.This unknown language is great guider and true teacher.
i did not chase enlightenment because I had no knowledge about it .When a true teacher appears inside you then why to worry about enlightenment.
We never ask a true question, so true teacher never appears.Mostly people demand for something or trying to get rid from something.
its good to see someone who really gets it
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Epic, thanks! I wrote this a few days ago, I think you'd probably dig, it's the same dialogue ✌
CONSIDERING THOUGHT, TIME, EMPTINESS
What lies beyond thought? Do you wonder? Are YOU your thoughts? Can we go into these matters? Who are you? Really, if I said show yourself to me, what would you offer up?
In order to begin to answer these questions, we must first observe inwardly the 'goings on'. We must examine how we observe and process experiences. We must examine our thoughts and the processes of the mind. Truthfully, there can be no progress until we are seeing clearly, what actually is. What is? If you observe a thing, the mind is conditioned to immediately name it and categorize it. In an unceasing effort to make sense of the world to ourselves, our minds are conditioned into this way of thinking. Immediately, thoughts rush in to compare, identify, etc. but these pre-conceived notions serve only to distort the truth of what is there. So the question becomes, how do I observe without any thought or precondition? Do you follow? Time, psychological time to be clear, is a product of thought. We exist, actually, in an ever continuing present. The notion of past and future are byproducts of thought. Try to understand that time exists only as a byproduct of thought. That when there is no thought, there is no time. When the mind is free from thought and temporal conditioning, it can rest easily in the present. We are all addicted to thinking. The constant barrage of information and the constant acceleration of society is absolutely counter to being able to observe clearly, not only the world, but yourself. So let's revisit the question, who are you? If you are not your thoughts, then who are you? What lies beyond thought? Quite obviously, if you stop thinking, you don't just cease to exist, right? So why are we addicted to thinking? This arises from identifying the self image with you, with identifying your thoughts as you and continually reinforced by the society we have created. That we say 'I' want this and 'I' want that, and 'I'm' not happy and 'I' desire, etc., etc. We've created a society based upon the worship of the ego, this perceived self image. A society built around pleasure. Externally we've all but mastered the world, but internally we are still petty, aggressive, fearful, sorrowful and ALL carry a nagging sense that this all isn't right. That truly, it's all illusory. That the things we are chasing, our behaviors, frankly, the way we even build esteem, etc. are derived from a conditioned world view that imprisons us all. Conditioned by culture, by religion, by nationality, by tradition. So it becomes OVERLY important to dissolve the conditioning first. To look at ANY matter with a sharp intellect, fresh, not conditioned by previous experiences not obstructed by thought. Do you see? So if one looks at a flower. The observer is static, the flower is static and any thought I have during that observation creates an interval of time. If one looks at the flower with no preconception and no thought, then as we spoke about earlier, there is no interval of time because there is no thought. Then the observer becomes the observed, you see? There is only one thing, no interval! Right? So the question simply becomes how does one stop thought, right? First we must agree that there is, that which lies beyond thought. That if we are not our thoughts, that there is a greater underlying all encompassing thing, maybe the absolute mind (although the word absolute carries some heavy preconception). Let's say the mind that exists beyond thought. The ever present mind. What is it? These are areas where words will sully the ability to comprehend. This is where the paradox shows itself, put simply and directly, where less becomes more. So we've examined that thought produces time, time is root of ALL fear. Ie. The thing happened in the past, we're afraid it's going to happen in the future, presently creating an anxious state. So in the present, the only thing that is real, we're blocked by this constant anxiety, all again, derived from the image of self. One must examine closely, that the whole affair is just being played out by the trickery of the ego. That we've become so deeply invested in that image that we'll defend it! Would you be ok to wake up tomorrow and have forgotten yourself, entirely? We should welcome this, and please not forgetting the entirety of our sum experience in a puritanical sense, but eliminating the illusion that has been self created, you follow? We live in a world that has never, in all of history been more divided. Those divisions are the prisons of the mind, you must accept this. The idealistic idea of a better world, loving society starts within ourselves, plain and simple. We must bring about a mutation in the mind, in consciousness and thinking. These are the only methods that will effect change and allow us to begin to truly see what is. The first step is to listen. Listen to your thoughts and examine your thinking process. So the discussion isn't about any method, any dogmatic practice, any ritual right? That there is no guru or teacher here, only YOU, the product of years of evolution of mankind, right? Where there is authority, there is a block. One must look within to begin to discover what really is. Therein lies the real truth of it all, where you become the entirety of the universe. Take great care in approaching these things, they CANNOT be found or achieved through concentration, effort or motive. This can be the single most challenging and perplexing part of 'IT' all. That's a very difficult thing to understand for us, our ENTIRE existence thus far is predicated on this principle of motivation. Just as stopping thoughts has a similar trap. Forcing that is like trying to use an oar to flatten ripples in the water, or trying to catch a burglar by chasing through the house banging a pot, it just creates more commotion. Similarly, trying to get rid of desire, is just another desire.... you see? All these types of methods just impede progress and impose a block at the first step. The is no profit, no reward or great satisfaction as we know it, in this particular journey inward. Let us all stop running away from ourselves! Let's openly engage in this dialogue, let's see if we can muster the immense discipline required to truly do this work. Belief has no place where truth is concerned.
With love and compassion,
J
He found the explanation of the timelessness of observing, as opposed of the thinking, on the go. I got the chills ...what a sharp mind
Thinking is time which is illusion.
While observing is a timeless movement.
When thought arises , just watch it .
If you’re thinking , tomorrow I will observe , this is a thought and you can observe this also.
Observe your thoughts , noise and scenery around you.
Just observe .
Whatever comes in your mind , observe it .
Wherever your eyes wanna see , let it see.
Whatever your body is doing , let it do , you just watch it.
'...eyes don't wanna see...', no: seeing SEES - memory WANTS.
This is a pure definition of "look at everything the way it is"
"Look at everything as though for the first time you are looking at the world."
"Observe without feelings, thoughts, interpretation."
"Observing, perceiving has no time. The words, thoughts create time."
Thank you.
I wish this video never ended. Love watching him speak about these topic
I can see that this man was completely in touch with his feminine and masculine qualities. he had such soft eyes and warm smile that I thought he was an old woman at first. truly intelligent human being
I agree....he's overcome himself literelly
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I was reading your comment and the video was playing above and my 5 year old son asked me who is he or is it she? Observe I guess..
Enlightened ones don't have any gender
He is an exceptionally sensitive, wise and thoughtful man. Thank you for opening our eyes 🙏
absolutely, love and light.
He is Literally "master oogway" of the modern Era. Thank you very much for bestowing this immense wisdom upon us all 🙏🙏🙏
what a lovely soul, and love to all of you here and happy growing.
You have verbalization in your head: That's thought.
You have no words in your head: That's observation.
Observation is 100 times powerful than thought.
That's why people who observe stand out.
People who think a lot visit Psychiatrist.
Code Rag very good you are correct in that sense thanks
Abhi Shek you cant if you think you cant
@Abhi Shek "I can't Observe without words poping in my mind" That's your assumption, which is based on the fact that you identify too much with your thoughts. The fact is, over 90% of your thoughts are not really YOUR thoughts. They come either from the subconscious or emotional responses. If you get angry for example, you can observe yourself getting angry. It happened to me once and it was quite an experience, I felt that my mind was split in two. This taught me the dualistic nature of the mind: there is Ego, and there is Consciousness. The vast majority of people identify with their ego. You have to become aware that the Ego is illusory.
@@afterburner8083 And so is you physical body, but you still have to nurture it with illusory food and illusiory exercise.
@@bigfletch8 "Reality is an illusion, albeit a persistent one" -Albert Einstein
This is the greatest thing I've ever heard:
1 .- "The word and thougt crate time" 2.- "Time-binding quality is essentially the self". Something similar is said in the Bible : "The Word became flesh" . I believe that these statements contain the secret of ultimate liberation.
Observing is looking at everything like you are looking at it for the first time without any image, judgement or knowledge about it.🙏🏻
Choice lees observation
One way of Refractive double sense,
Thank you Krishnamurti and Krishnamurti Foundation 🙏🕉️🪷as always a totally profound gift for humanity. 🕊️🦋🙏🕉️
Drop the reaction, drop the words. Just observe everything as it is. Observing is Timeless! Thank you 🙏 JK
Very nicely said said🙏
Nothing is time less no time
Except one ☝️ who is there
The message is, is that there is no conceptualisations in reality. No words nor ideas exist in reality to define anything. If you look and listen closely, you start to realise that many of our lives are lived within a world of thoughts and definitions that pose absolutely no relevance to reality whatsoever. This also includes ideas of 'enlightenment' and the 'ego'. We are so fixated on seeing things within the constraints of our minds and we don't actually see things the way they are, which in fact cannot be defined. The mind is all that there is and our thoughts are what we become! And if you're aware, you'll realise that these words are merely thoughts too. Quite contradictory.
If you have drawn the msg, you have not understood.
What we call the Truth itself is contradictory. Once you define something as being the true, you’ve confined it to what’s known now. The truth presents itself all that time. It’s almost like trying to grab the water with your bare hands. Water will just flow throughout your fingers, just so as the truth would.
@@WILLFRANCA1 its even an assumption that there is something what is called truth....
Spot on.
To even being able hear all this is like life is patting on my head whispering everything is miraculous
so beautiful. of course beautiful is just a word... but nevertheless...
When I managed to put this into practice, I filled my being with wonder.
please can you help me how to put it into practice
@@jasdm Not sure if this helps. Pay attention to assumptions. Be willing to be vulnerable. But at same time be aware of risk. Words are needed to describe in a relationship. Enjoy. Love.
Just try to deeply concentrate in the moment , nothing else , is important to think about nothing , just observe. For me the most important is to observe your self and your own actions , breathing etc...
Good luck my friend , it really can bring you a lot of joy!
@@jasdm IDK if it helps but I watched one video it said when ur brain starts to form words about something just don't answer to that & let it say... If u don't react to it, the brain will slowly stop using words & at that time u will just watch or observe. 😊
At every point in Human history, these great CONTEMPORARY BEINGS have made a huge impact. Blessed is our world as long as we have these Great being among us.
Oh my!! That is an intellectual and divine face. His eyes are very powerful.
By emptying the mind, being shapeless, formless. Bruce lee grasped that perfectly, when you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup, when you put water in a bottle, it becomes the bottle, when you put water in tea pot, it becomes the tea pot. Be water my friend. Tremendous observation by a great observer Dr Krishnamurti
It seems like I have been in state of word suspension for the last 50 years. Thanks to Krishnamurti my life is endlessly interesting.
The word chair is not a chair. The word is not the thing. Get past the labels.
Who needs IKEA when the world is yours to chair? But who's left holding the shares when the chair shares its value with everything else? And what's the chairman to do when he's lost his seat in the game of defining chairs?
J.K,'s talks makes a lot of sense now, man is evolving and mankind can see it...
"We're together in this?" 🙏💛🙏 he said that a lot through his life! I don't think anyone was listening 😁
Existence being humours
I think it's a very valid reminder to make
So did he called out all the religious dogmas every time 😆
J,krishnamurti is great .
There will be a time when you do not listen music just only by ears , you do not see things with just your eyes only , you do not feel by just your senses only. What is happening outside is happening inside of you, you can not separate it. There are no boundaries. There is just One...this Oneness is love.
Krishnamurti loves to ask questions and his teaching style can be a little daunting for the restless. But here, in this clip, he gives some beautifully clear answers.
This man knows incredible depths.
Beautiful, " you never look at him for the first time. Look at everything with the freshness of the mind!!!! 🌷
I think he has provided one of the most important aspect of the dimention in his last sentence of this video. Absolutely mind blowing 😅
I have listened to this talk a few times, but somehow this time his words just penetrates me deeply.
Food for thought, fast for observation
Apart from the subject at hand, the *Rain* in the background just makes it better!
Words is thinking; do to the way the mind loves to name things? To observe is to not think what is being observed
Good Morning Krishnanurti foundation.... from Chennai
Batman is here, dont worry
Yessss that is the way in!!! Watch with full attention. He is a genius we learned so much from this speaker!!
wish every morning would unfold like this, perfect ignition to start a day with a clear set of mind, thank you jk
After reading the question, he asked the audience members if they had the answer, and I realized I did. This realization occurred in the same moment I remembered this man's words against 'gurus', or the seeking of gurus.
Precisely. Priceless!
This man's job is to remind people how to learn the basic things of life that they've already forgotten
I don't believe forgotten but actually we never learned because we were born into a conditioned disordered world/mind which we had to conform to, to survive. It is dying to this conditioned state or false reality that sets us free, letting go of our attachments beliefs fear images etc.
@@soundsgood12 Exactly. The way we learned to use our mind was through unconscious conditioning. So we are oblivious to what the actuality is.
Without any word or verbal, what is existence of that we observe.... This is tremendous and big direction or an inquiry ......
Hats off SIR 🙏🙏🙏
this is exactly my realization about a week ago, and from here, you are going uphill my friends.
I like that - SO THE WORD AND THOUGHT CREATE TIME -🙏🙏😇😇 Amazing spech from Krishnamurti.
5:10 I didn't know this about others. I used to think that when we imagine something we don't use words because I mostly never used words on imagining something so I thought this would be true for everyone else.
K is not talking about imagination but to see something without name means without conditioning and as you say imagination whatsoever you imagine is impossible without content and naming and conditioning
Hope you will understand thankyou
"the word on thoughts create time." This is one of the biggest reveal on the illusion of time, well said.
My friend time is not illusions. Everything you do and don't are shaped by time. You existing by time. You are evolution of time. Time is everything.
@@greathope6433 All the world history we've ever had are recorded "nows" even your own past is "past nows" so the only tangible now is the now "now". i hope you get this, read more.
@@dharmashekhar1047 Those world view of counting nows both linear and yuga are irrelevant, they are just like simple calander programs that you install on your computer. If you hadn't learn them you simply wouldn't know they exist because in reality they dont that is what he means by illusion. But you can leave the worldview of time. You dont have to live your life inside this programs, by clicking close the program by being in the now. And for that to happen you must stay with the witness that 3rd self of yours that sees the object and subject at the same time. You must find it and nurture its growth so you close the program all day.
@@native2704 my brother, you are living on earth so you restricted by time and space.
@@greathope6433True the mind and body is in time and space, but consciousness goes deeper than that. The witness that witnesses the same body and mind goes beyond time and space..read more your argument is not false but insufficient it seems you have not understood wat the lesson is about read more on patanjali, gurdjieff.
This man is the a voice to world peace, it can't get much more simple! In a nutshell what he teaches is what love isn't
From 11:10 to 11:40 timeline interests me, if one could watch one’s every thought, the difficulty is watching without judging this addictive form of watching then again becomes thought and so you’re caught in the loop once again, it takes real attention to breakthrough this cycle the watching and the judging are almost inseparable and when you think you’ve mastered it you’ve just judged yourself via thought once more so there can be no mastering just attention - nothing to gain nothing to lose everything else is thought !
You are on the right path mate have you heard about Zen meditation?
The difference between observing and thinking is that:
When you see something for the first time you feel something distinctive ( not talking of the general feelings of happiness, sadness etc.) And because you've not seen it earlier you are not thinking anything about it.
While when you see something after seeing it many times you will notice that you are not feeling that thing as you were feeling initially. And you'll notice that subconsciously your brain predicts things about it like this is its structure on different angles, this is its functions etc.
This is the difference between observing and thinking. In short, the difference is of the feeling. Present in observation and absent while thinking.
Always remember, you are either thinking or feeling. As when you feel something very intensely (say intense sadness, tension, anger etc.) you are unable to think.
What a magical and magnificent person this is. 💝
❤ ....... Beautiful, loving soul, consciousness ....... ❤
Awareness is the cup. Thought is the tea in the cup. Understanding is instant comprehension. See yourself as you truly are. Forever free in the now.
In closing, a quote from an unknown author,
“When we teach others, we teach ourselves!”
think of mind as a cave, you have to go deeper and deeper to observe or watch. knowing about it is like finding a treasure. you are blessed if you cant meditate cause its an opportunity for you, watching the tingling and sensation you have when meditating and watching especially what you feel when you wanna run from meditation. but its the thing of at least 6 years of continues meditation. and that is the milestone when you know that you have to drop the meditation.
Wise warm vibrant grandpa 😊 must have lived such a humbled life
Wow, this is the crux of everything.
What a wonderful talk👏
Thanks Jay Krishnamurti❤
Observing is curiosity, asking questions ( wat is this, is it true, what's new)
Feeling is labelling ( collapsing all the possibilities into one form)
This is the clearer explanation of the process I have watch from K. to date and it was fun to watch to boot!
The master was in good shape that day! 🌄 🦅
I love this man
3:20 - This is so interesting! Observe without transposing observations into abstract (and distracting) words of a language. As soon as we start observing with words, we stop truly observing and begin to formulate action, perhaps very selfish action.
First time looking at Krishnamurti.....he is very fresh
His talks clears d mind n observe d surroundings without influence of our thought process,It is rally superb content.
Observation is immediate.thinking is a process,takes time.
Not necessarily. I can observe you over time. I can think about you and make an instant assessment. It depends.
If we stop thinking about self...we will start observing the things...just like our childhood...in childhood most our time we used to observe than thinking about ourself...this is the reason most of us like our childhood
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Well said. I can remember being under the age of 3-4 and being aware of nothing except of being aware, how peaceful! Then becoming aware observing the world slowly unfold come into being. Life felt beautiful. It’s when I started becoming aware confused of people’s strange behavior/their conditioned minds their suffering that my thinking went into overtime (like most a horrible conditioned state of mind for decades) but now slowed down again due to listening to J Kristnamurti, peace has noticeably returned again
15:25 "i'm finding all of this as I talk..." yo😭
Because we’re that, he make more sense than religion itself
He is reality, humanity, the rest of the world has to catch up, to save earth
real observation only happened when we were born and exposed to this world the first few times before we were taught, we stopped observing and started learning and learnt everything wrong
Apt. If K used more appropriate and relatable analogies, he would have been more understood.
I just love the simplicity by which complex things are explained.
If you thinked about it, you missed it...love that.
If you can see / observe the activity of the brain, how it jumps around from sensation to sensation; seeking one pleasure/fulfillment then to another - if you can observe that without the label getting in the way, you have observation.
Be the observer of our mind!!the difference between observing and thinking is tremendous!!so observe the reality in the present moment!!the mind tremendously attentive and thinking is full of thoughts without realizing the present moment!!🙏🙏
So by observer you mean dont answer thoughts and giving them more energy? Cuz they fire automatically, repeatedly sometimes uninvited, un-announced and on blast some are rated R and some should not be discussed publicly 😅
Это значит мы должны наблюдать каждую мысль и знать, что мысли - это не мы, это приходит из вне, поэтому каждая мысль должна быть наблюдаема, это и есть осознание ее. Если мысль нам не нравится, не надо себя за это осуждать, надо думать о том, что хочешь добиться в жизни или читать хорошие полезные книги, можно классику , или можно говорить аффирмации для успокоения ума. А главное, надо помогать людям, в любой форме и делать это постоянно, тогда ум будет всегда думать о других и перестанет думать о себе любимом.
Bhagbad Gita + J krishnamurti = Best 👌
We need another being like this one today.
You our that being
you can move what you see from observing the others..and improve to yourself..what is wrong from them your going to alternate this.. doing it righteously..the negative always faced the positive..all negative they bring? recieve and spread in a positive things..always stay in mind that working for bad things is giveback in bad situations..but the bad things you recieve gave them in good deeds..dont be angry because that it is part in our life..it hurts to be good person..but its okay..its not always hurt...the end is always happy and joy..
Stay Quiet... Wordless is Timeless..
1st QUESTION: How do we tell the difference between observing ourselves in the sense you mean, and merely thinking about ourselves?
Have you got the answer? Thinking about ourselves and observing about ourselves. They are two different things according to this question. Thinking about oneself, which we all do - I am making progress, I am better than yesterday, I have my problems, which is thinking. I wish I had better food, better clothing, better housing, or I wish I had more sex - you follow? - money, thinking about oneself all the time - which most of us do, even the austere monk, he does think about himself - right? Only is the name of God - right? And the questioner says, what is the difference between that, thinking about yourself, and observing yourself - right? Right, that is the question.
Now we know what it means to think about ourselves - right? It is really going round and round in circles. Either expanding the self, the ego, or contracting the ego - right? I am the world, I am God, I must be more kindly, I must love. I must be more intelligent, I must meditate in order to achieve - whatever they want to achieve. So we are all caught in that. And observing oneself is something entirely different - right?
Then let's find out what does it mean to observe. You understand the question? We are together in this? Come on sirs!
First of all, do we observe anything without the word? Do we observe the mountain and not call it mountain? Do we observe the evening light on the cloud, with its most extraordinary colour, beauty and something immense, can we look at those clouds and the mountains without using a single word? Can we do that? You understand my question? Don't look so paralysed. That is, can we look at anything objectively, the trees, nature, the waters, the sky and the evening star and the silence of a morning, this extraordinary world we live in, natural world, can we look at anything without a single word? And to find that out we have to find, go into the question why the brain is caught in a network of words? You understand my question? Are we together in this?
We are asking: can we look at anything, including my wife, my husband, my daughter, the politicians, the various gurus and the priests and all the circus that goes on in the name of religion, can we look at all that without reaction first? Then find out if we can look at all that without the network of words interfering with our observation. Can we do that? Have you ever tried that? When one looks at one's wife or husband, can you look at her or him, without all the images, all the things that you have accumulated about her or him, just to look? Can you? You are exceptionally silent when I talk about the husband and the wife and the girl and the boy. So one has to find out why the brain is so caught up in words. When you say he is a communist or a totalitarian you have wiped it out, you have put him in a category, in a cage, and that is the end of it. Or he is British. Or he is French, or he is an Indian, or he is this or that. See what is happening to our brain. Linguistically the brain has been caught with words, not the significance and the depth of the word, but just the word. This requires careful watching. Watching is to observe. There was a balloon going up this morning - you must have all seen it - and you watched it, going up and up and up very, very slowly. The gondola hanging and you saw the whole thing. Then you would say, "By Jove, I wish I were up there", or you say to yourself, "How dangerous." And so on. We never look at anything without words, without reactions. Look.
Now you are all sitting there and you are unfortunately seeing the speaker. And you have already put him into a category. You already have an image about him. You already say he is this, he is that, or he is some kind of idiot or whatever you like to say about him. So you never (noise of train) - he has forgotten to whistle! (Laughter) - so you never look at him as though for the first time. You understand? Have you ever done this kind of thing? Not just for a minute or for an hour or a day, but the freshness of a mind, brain - you understand? - which is not caught in words, reactions, look at everything as though for the first time you are looking at the world. That observation is to watch oneself, never allowing a single thought to escape, without watching it, being aware of it, giving your whole attention to that one thought. And then another thought, keep at it. So that your brain is tremendously attentive. You understand? So that watching is not egocentric movement. Whereas thinking about yourself is egotistic, self-centred activity. It is clear, isn't it? Now, just a minute. How do we move from this to that? Right? You are asking naturally, you must ask that question. Or am I asking the question and you are accepting it? You understand? Suppose one is self-centred, I am self-centred, egocentric, all my outlook is personal - I am not loved, I must love, you know, all that kind of turmoil, silliness that goes on. I am that, one is that. Then how am I, how is it to move to the other? Right? You are asking that question, aren't you? Is that a right question? Moving from here to there. That is a wrong question obviously. Because if you move from here to there that is the same as this. Vous avez compris? Move! You understand this? If I say I am selfish, now I must not be selfish, I must observe. The"'must' is still in the same category, or the same movement, as thinking about oneself. Right? Are we together in all this? Some of us are I hope at least.
So the question then is answered, not the answer is outside the question, but the answer is in the question. Right? That is observing the question itself, what it reveals. It reveals a tremendous lot. Because you see observing, if I can put it differently, observing, perceiving has not time. The other is caught in time: thinking about myself, I will fulfil one day, I have no roots now but I am going to establish roots some time, I have no identity - you follow? All those are time binding qualities. Time binding quality is essentially the self. I don't know if you want to go into all that. I am finding all this as I talk - right? Whereas watching, if you watch that bird, there is no time in that at all, just watching - right? So the word and thought create time. I won't go into all that. Got it
Thank you.
I appreciate it!
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Thank you ❤
Vijay Karthik
Why have you just repeated what Krishnamurti was saying
LOVE and thanks for you great service
His expressions are just natural
Thank you so much. Your excellent teaching will last forever.
Being aware without words creates an intensity.
Try it out.
If you force wordlessness, yes
Thinking without words is also possible, its still language but in form of feelings that comes before words regardless, but we are unaware. Whole sentences at once, highly efficient.
This is one reason why meditation is so powerful and important
Love you, JK.
What a compassionate man you are
He is ultimate
Great
Awesome
I was there in that tent in Saanen in 1984. Somehow i knew that the next year would be the last, and went there again.
Its a very good thing that these videos exist.
Someone here is asking what Krishnamurti thinks about LSD. The answer is clear, that any drug makes the brain dull, talked once about a mushroom called Soma used in old India. But drugs can off course for a while Take away our thougts fears and so on, but not in a lasting manner.
Observation is to observe that we form conclusions, images, ideas on "how observation should be".
Sometimes I don't understand what is he saying, but I 'feel' it 😅
Read power of now book. U will understand it easily
It's great to stay alone some time and watching ourselves
One takes place in the realized moment and the other is from memory. Easy peasy.
thanks a lot guys.....Krishnamurti foundation
Simply amazing ,Thank you JK
he is the perfect role model
Yes
Look at objects without reacting and without using any words, without any images about it. Watching is to observe.
Look without reaction and without using words.
Look at objects as if you are looking at it for the first time.
Don’t allow a single thought to move without observing.
Observing is not ego centric
Thinking is ego centric
Keep your brain always attentive
Observing n perceiving has no time
Self or ego is time bound
Word n thought create time
one is in the moment and the other one is reflecting
ponder to know the difference
They should teach this in public schools.
Yes they should teach his wisdom in schools, unfortunately it is not in the vested interest or the bottom line, how foolish. On the whole I believe his/our messages will increase gaining traction, I believe it’s the only way real change can occur because it’s the way real change in “myself” occurred, basically through gaining self knowledge, that simple.
@10:50 "look at everthing as though for the first time you are looking at the world."
Gotta love this guy! The real deal!
YES 👍 FEELINGS
I can look at anything without words, and observe it and feels it
Telling him a beautiful mind would be disrepect to him, just a simple Legend.
Telling him simple Or legend is also disrespect,
Greatest understanding